Idk if this is the original, I understand a bit but not all of it. It’s basically 2 sentences - I cannot get the second one. I’m dying to know the actual lyrics, bc I don’t trust AI translations when it comes to our languages lol

Also CONGRATULATIONS 💪

We have a few in Croatian, for example:

• "Dužan kao Grčka" - Indebted like Greece
• "Puši kao Turčin" - Smokes as much as a Turk
• "Tako mlada a već Slovenka" - She is so young but already a Slovenian
• "Jebe se tebi što Mađarska nema more" - You don't care that Hungary has no sea
• "Kao da su Turci prošli" - As if the Turks passed through
• "I mirna Bosna" - And Bosnia is peaceful

I was thinking I should explain what some of those mean, but I think it's better if you try to guess

I believe this recent election is fantastic news for the Balkans, and Europe at large.

Is there a general consensus regarding when to expect positive changes in the country? Understanding it will be a process, and patience being a virtue...will Serbs continue on a positive path?

Turkey-Bulgaria = 8,5 billions $
Turkey-Greece = 5 billions $

While Greece is a larger economy than Bulgaria and has a much longer border, along with numerous islands close to Turkey.

It is fair to say that Greece and Turkey are not realizing their full commercial potential.

Source: Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung (FAZ)

A Program Full of Nationalism

It remains unclear how the Serbian student movement will govern. However, its foreign policy platform does not bode well for the Balkans.

In Serbia’s parliamentary election, which drove longtime Serbian President Aleksandar Vučić from power and may even have marked the beginning of the end of his political career, domestic issues came first, second, and third. Foreign policy played no role in the campaign, at least for the victorious “Student List” and its electorate. Yet foreign policy questions will soon come crashing down on a new Serbian government. And what is known about the student movement’s foreign policy program bodes ill for the region.

On key issues, this program follows seamlessly in the footsteps of Vučić’s Serbian nationalism and that of his defeated Progressive Party. It is a document looking backward. An attempt to implement it would inevitably fuel conflicts in the region.

The fact that the students do not recognize Kosovo’s independence is hardly surprising. This position is even enshrined in the preamble to the Serbian Constitution. But the student movement goes further: it seems unwilling to acknowledge even the very existence of Kosovo as a state. Its program sounds as though a government in Belgrade could act as it pleased anywhere in Kosovo.

For Serbia’s Students, Kosovo Is a “So-Called Republic”

The program published on the movement’s website states that they will fight to keep Kosovo within Serbia. It leaves open the question of how this fight is supposed to be waged.

The former Serbian province is referred to only as a “so-called republic”:

“We will consistently oppose the unilaterally declared independence of the so-called Republic of Kosovo and will not allow it to join international organizations.”

Apparently, the movement even wants to reverse progress that has already been made. Referring to the Serbian-Kosovar agreement on normalizing relations between Belgrade and Pristina, concluded in 2023 under Vučić’s rule with EU mediation, the program states:

“We will prosecute all responsible representatives of the regime for any and all potential criminal offenses related to the conclusion and implementation of unconstitutional agreements to Serbia’s detriment.”

The movement apparently wants to reverse Kosovo’s statehood. From the perspective of the Serbian student movement, there is no democratically elected government in Kosovo. Instead, it refers to “provisional self-governing institutions” in Pristina.

Even the Serbian university in Kosovska Mitrovica, located in the densely Serb-populated north of Kosovo, is described in the students’ terminology as being based there only “provisionally.”

Why provisionally? Because they want to move it back to the capital, Pristina? Without consulting the Kosovar government? How is that supposed to work?

The student movement’s claim to decision-making authority in Kosovo could be realized only through war.

On Kosovo, the student movement relies on its “traditional partnership” with Russia to “resolve outstanding issues of mutual interest.” Accordingly, it rejects the imposition of sanctions against Russia:

“The Republic of Serbia will maintain its fundamental position of not imposing restrictive measures against the Russian Federation.”

Instead, the movement seeks a “comprehensive strategic partnership” with China, which it intends to expand further, particularly in infrastructure and high-tech investment.

Solidarity with Palestine, but Silence on Srebrenica

The student movement also takes a clear position on Israel. The relevant section begins with the sentence:

“Our people know very well what it means to be victims of genocide and ethnic cleansing.”

The conclusion is as follows:

“Accordingly, we will not make ourselves complicit in Israel’s systematic attempt to annihilate the Palestinian people in the Gaza Strip. We will increase the delivery of humanitarian aid to Palestine in order to save lives and reduce the number of victims.”

Serbian students are not alone in Europe in their outrage over Israel’s policies toward the Palestinians. However, the question is how credible such outrage can be when it comes from a movement whose understanding of its own country’s history and crimes consists above all of a collection of glaring blind spots.

The movement, which claims that the Serbian people know very well what it means to be victims of genocide and ethnic cleansing, has not said a single word about the burial of Serbian war criminal Ratko Mladić with full military honors in Belgrade.

It held a nationalist rally to mark the anniversary of the medieval Battle of Kosovo, yet remained silent on the anniversary of the genocide committed by Serbs at Srebrenica in 1995.

All of this provides further evidence of the historical outlook of a generation that has absorbed more of the nationalist atmosphere of Vučić’s years in power than it realizes.

An election manifesto is not yet a policy. Perhaps coming to power will also bring pragmatism.

But if what is written in the program really does represent the students’ foreign policy, Croatia, Montenegro, Kosovo, and the majority population in Bosnia will probably have to join forces in some form against such a Serbia.

They will have to stand together against a country that views itself, its past, and its neighbors with such profound historical blindness.

The result would not be Serbia’s liberation, but its isolation.

A recent post on this subreddit had numerous claims of political bias and the paper being allied with the party of a certain losing politician. It seems like a common refrain among all Balkan countries that the media can’t be trusted (that’s a topic for another day).

So for those people who do stay informed, what news sources do you rely on? Bonus points if they have an English language distribution

Hi everyone!

I’ll be visiting Durrës around 10th November and was wondering what it’s like at that time of year.

Is the city still lively, with restaurants, cafés and bars open, or does it get pretty quiet?

Also, is the weather warm enough for swimming in the sea, or will it be too cold?

Would love to hear from locals or anyone who’s visited around November.

Thanks!

I don’t understand this. Sure, there may be some disagreements, like the issue over the name, for instance, but North Macedonia is a small, peaceful, and harmless country that poses zero threat.

Not that it's just silly, but it's also just wrong. Factually wrong!

While Vucic wasn't openly pro EU, at least not in words, cause that wouldn't be popular amongst his voters, the EU was definitely pro Vucic at minimum. Hence why the lowest recorded pro EU sentiment in Serbia. They openly supported him all this time, and it's clear that the EU (well, Ursula von der Leyen and Marta Kos at least) weren't happy with election results. Vucic and EU obviously had some kind of an agreement that was beneficial for both of them.

The only argument I can see was the Student movement members cycling to Brussels, but that had less to do with the EU itself and more with rising the emmigration in Germany, Austria and Belgium to vote in support of Student Movement. The other reason was percisely because of EU's support for Vucic... and of course the students weren't even received in Brussels.

I mean, on the other hand, there are some Student List candidates that are pro EU integration, but there are also some who are Eurosceptics at minimum.

On the other hand, relations with Russia are at a historic low, due to Vucic's clear attempts to steal NIS (one of the strongest and most profitable companies in Serbia) from Gasprom. That resulted in the Russian Federation's support for Vucic being moderate at best. And again, there are some candidates on the Student List that are pro Russian at minimum.

One thing said, Vucic can be considered pro Chinese, but as is usual in most European countries, it begins and ends with money.... especially Vucic regime that was involved in God knows what shady deals with the Chinese. Student list promised that the shady deals with all sides (including Chinese) will be looked into and ended if needed, but the econimic cooperation with China and keeping Chinese investments in Serbia will remain of highest priority.

Serbians Bulgarians Romanians what do you think could a confederation work bwetween us?

And macedonians lol

Hi everyone,

Me (37M) and Irish and a friend (37M) and US Citizen are eager to travel around the Balkans for 3 weeks in Spring next year. Our plan would be to rent a car and drive as much of the trip as possible and take as few main roads as is practical.

We have a loose idea to visit, Croatia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Serbia, Romania, Kosovo and Albania. Open to going further South too or anywhere in the region really.

We love Dive Bars, older hotels and restaurants, small towns, nature and meeting new people. Any advice on good towns and cities to check out are really appreciated or good spots to hang out, drink, eat and stay.

Any advice on the best route to take, or anything we should we aware of when traveling around or crossing borders is really appreciated too. I'd imagine we'd likely arrive and leave from the same airport, dropping a car back to different one is always a nightmare and costs way more.

Thanks in advance.

Moves towards reconciliation with the rest of BiH, right?

Serbia has awakened, and the student movement has achieved success. Which Balkan country do you think will awaken next?