r/SpicyFootballTakes • • 2m ago

Hot Take: Mbappe is a great player but he never had a single season where he had a take where he was the best player of the season

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Both the likes of Messi and Ronaldo had several seasons of their careers which are among the greatest individual seasons ever played. For example Messi had 10/11, 11/12, 14/15 and 18/19 while Cristiano had 11/12, 13/14 and 14/15 seasons. Even other lesser players had legendary season like 13/14 and 15/16 for Suarez or 19/20 and 20/21 for Lewandowski.

The main issue with Mbappe is he never had a single season where he was playing a level above the rest. in 17/18 Season Mbappe was inferior to Ronaldo, Messi and Salah as well. in 18/19 he was inferior to Messi, in 19/20 he was inferior to Lewandowski, in 20/21 he was inferior to both Messi and Lewandowski. In 21/22 he was inferior to Benzema, in 22/23 he was around the same level as Messi but not clear best player, in 23/24 Vinicius, Rodri or Bellingham where better than him, in 24/25 Dembele was better than him and in 25/26 Season Kane was better than him

Basically he is always there among the best but he never had a single season where he was arguably the best player of the season let alone having legendary seasons like Messi, CR7, Suarez or Lewandowski


r/SpicyFootballTakes • • 3m ago

25/26 club and country stats for 5 Ballon d'Or 2026 contenders! Who truly deserved the award?

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r/SpicyFootballTakes • • 21m ago

Attempting to fix the 2026 Ballon d'Or ceremony

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r/SpicyFootballTakes • • 22m ago

Salah should’ve won the ballon dor in 2025

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He had the greatest premier league season of all time and finished 4th…..
Dembele and psg could rest whenever they wanted while Salah started every single game in the league and ucl and to do what he did in the premier league which is the best league in the world and not even finish on the podium is ridiculous. When choosing a winner in these ballon dors I think that the league they play should always come into ranking.

It’s pretty sad that he is going to retire without a ballon dor.


r/SpicyFootballTakes • • 25m ago

My take on the 2021 and 2023 Ballon d'Ors.

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r/SpicyFootballTakes • • 28m ago

Me after finding out that Ronaldo won the B.O.A.T Award, vs. Me then finding out that it's fan-voted, so it doesn't mean anything. (My (hot?) take is that fan-voted awards should not mean anything, regardless of who wins it.)

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r/SpicyFootballTakes • • 30m ago

Top 10 Individual Season in the Modern Era

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1. 2011/2012 Lionel Messi:

2. 2014/2015 Lionel Messi

3. 2011/2012 Cristiano Ronaldo

4. 2010/2011 Lionel Messi

5. 2013/2014 Cristiano Ronaldo

  1. 1996/1997 Ronaldo Nazairo

7. 2019/2020 Lewandowski

8. 2015/2016 Luis Suarez

9 2014/2015 Cristiano Ronaldo

10. 2018/2019 Lionel Messi


r/SpicyFootballTakes • • 35m ago

Harry Kane the most overrated footballer on the planet

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Title is kinda clickbait i can admit Kane is one of the best strikers in the world, however was he better than Luis Suarez? No better than lewa? Absolutely not. Bear in mind they didn’t have the national team England has. For England harry Kane has choked consistently for a decade when the pressure it’s big he skies the penalty(easily the best penalty taker in the world btw) and nobody gives him any shit I wonder why lol. Anyways have fun slaughtering me in the comments


r/SpicyFootballTakes • • 43m ago

Real Madrid have been playing the Negreira game all season long to put pressure on the referees and play nasty football on Sunday

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Tchouameni, Bernardo Silva and Cucurella’s game were just simply nasty and they should have been sent off or shown a yellow card before the end of the first half


r/SpicyFootballTakes • • 53m ago

PSG will begin their decline as soon as Dembele and Ruiz leave or decline.

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Despite all the injuries, Dembele is still their best attacker. People love to underestimate him, but when he's in form, he's deadly. Dribbling, playmaking, carrying, speed, shooting, both left and right. With the way Luis Enrique's PSG team plays, he's the perfect striker. There's no one who can replace him while maintaining this style of play.

Fabian is also a complete player. He's PSG's best playmaker. Vitinha is very good under pressure (as is Ruiz), but Ruiz adds physicality and has a superior passing range. It's no coincidence that the Ruiz-Vitinha-Neves midfield works, but with Bruno does not. Ruiz is a true midfielder, Bruno is not. He's good at spamming balls forward, but controlling the game and knowing when to slow it down and speed it up isn't in Bruno style.


r/SpicyFootballTakes • • 53m ago

How are BundASSliga with Bayern a major achievement while Ligue 1 with PSG a minor achievement?

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r/SpicyFootballTakes • • 1h ago

If by some miracle fleet Wood went on a run and won the League cup where would in rank in all time football underdog runs?

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r/SpicyFootballTakes • • 1h ago

Goat?

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Why people just talk about messi and ronaldo when the goat debate happens,i really see r9 ,maradona , neymar,george best,cruffy,Zidane etc are just amezing and fav also,apart from that in my view why people don't talk about Ronaldinho.

He is the most skillfull,great dribbler and scorer also ,for me i consider ronaldinho as goat .

I know messi is greatest dribbler and cr7 is best goal scorer and skill player and i love both of them and enjoyed the both of them peak era's.

Don't you think that Ronaldinho is greatest of all time player 🤔?


r/SpicyFootballTakes • • 1h ago

World Football Club Prestige Tiers

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This is ranking world football clubs by how prestigious they are.

Factors:

\- On-Pitch Success

\- World Class players that have played there

\- How highly respected they are in football circles


r/SpicyFootballTakes • • 1h ago

World chose Ronaldo.. suiiiiii

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r/SpicyFootballTakes • • 1h ago

If a player drops and makes signs of pain only to get back up 10 seconds later they should get booked

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Confuses me to no end that obvious dives are a yellow but going down in pain only to get right back up because play is continuing isnt. It's embarrassing.


r/SpicyFootballTakes • • 1h ago

Messi and ronaldo deserved only 4 ballon dors if we remove forward bias

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Messi in 2009 , 2011,2012,2015

Ronaldo in 2008,2014,2016,2017


r/SpicyFootballTakes • • 1h ago

Part of the reason why Yamal and Mbappé didn’t win the Ballon d’Or is because they campaigned for it.

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Watching each player say that they deserve it was kind of embarrassing and cringe i’m not saying that Kane didn’t deserve it He absolutely did.
But I also don’t think France football wanted campaigning to become a staple of the award.


r/SpicyFootballTakes • • 1h ago

Top 10 strikers from 2000

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r/SpicyFootballTakes • • 1h ago

There’s nothing wrong with trying to rank players you haven’t personally seen

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Thanks to all this “LARP” culture, you’re apparently no longer allowed to rank players you haven’t seen. This especially goes for lists based on position or maybe country, I think it’s a little more accepted in overall GOAT lists. To be fair, I do get being a bit iffy on Bican or players with 0 existing footage or just pre war guys in general. But let’s be real here, the fun of ranking is about forming your own thoughts based on a combination of knowns and unknowns.

As the players get older, the highlight reels grow thinner, though, and the older folks in your life may not be able to comment on Di Stefano the way they might be able to praise Maradona or R9 to the ends of the earth. But I think it’s a balancing act. You take highlights, ideally raw game footage, trophies, accolades, anecdotes from players and coaches of their time, maybe anecdotes from people around you now, and you form a relatively educated opinion.

I’m going to mention my personal take now: the Brazil 1958-1970 guys are somehow, despite those teams widely being considered some of the very best, underrated. Where’s Didi on your list of best midfielders? Is Garrincha not the best winger behind Messi? And what argument could you make that Jairzinho isn’t right behind him? Is Carlos Alberto not better than Cafu? I even see players from the 80s generation like Zico and Socrates now missing out on a lot of modern discussion which is just crazy to me.

I don’t know, I feel like it’s a shame that there’s a lack of nuanced discussion of a lot of these great older teams and players. I think a lot of modern players get grossly overrated because young people just forget about how many great players there have been, or they’re even encouraged not to mention them because it’s such a travesty to give flowers to a player of yesteryear. Is Neymar top 20? No, he’s not. There are players I’d rank above him even when it comes to raw skill as opposed to trophies who don’t ever get those plaudits. For instance, Gullit could play in every position to an arguably greater degree than Cruyff and would be the best player on the pitch no matter where you moved him to. Definitely above Neymar on a list, and it’d be difficult to imagine him being above the very lowest spots on a top 20.

In summary, I believe we need to educate ourselves a little more on players of the past, while destigmatizing the formation of value judgements on their greatness and skill. All the players I’ve mentioned are very surface level, and the more you dive deep into some of these mid century national and club sides, the more amazing players to watch and read about you’ll find.


r/SpicyFootballTakes • • 2h ago

Haaland 22/23 is a top 3 season for any player of all time

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Broke premier league goalscoring record

champions league and premier league golden Boot winner

Treble winner

6 hattricks including 5 goals (in 60 mins) against RB Leipzig

Carried City in his first ever season


r/SpicyFootballTakes • • 2h ago

This proves that if Ballondor allowed fans to vote.. Ronaldo would be sitting with 10+ Ballondors..

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Ronaldo is objectively the face of football...

He is the most popular footballer of all time..


r/SpicyFootballTakes • • 2h ago

If you have cristiano ronaldo outside your top 2 of all time you are just a hater or delusional

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r/SpicyFootballTakes • • 2h ago

Not sure why people aee against Kane winning the BDO, he scored more goals in 2025/26 than Ronaldo ever did in any calendar season and only 2012 Messi had more goals

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To me it's ridiculous to claim Kane didnt deserve the BDO despite him having the 2nd highest goalscoring season in the modern era with 73 Goals, only behind 2011/2012 Messi with 82 Goals

Like, this is highest than any season or calendar year from Ronaldo and only surpassed by the best seasons or year from Messi in 2012 and 2011/2912

Plus there is already previous cases of a player winning without UCL or WC due to insane numbers such as 2010 Messi, 2012 Messi and 2013 Ronaldo


r/SpicyFootballTakes • • 2h ago

what are you honest takes on international fans of a club like myself?

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been a fan since the 08/09 season