For some reason this sub has gone wild because you can get to LEVEL FUCKING 10 roughly 10% faster than on WoW classic.

You wanted more quests? You have them. You are now complaining because it’s too many quests and we outgrow stuff quicker? Don’t do those quests and you will level at the exact same pace you did on Classic.

You wanted different items? Sure, here’s new items, new quest rewards, some more money, some more greens while you level up. You are now complaining because you have ‘more power’ than before because of the new items…

I DIED PLENTY OF TIMES AS A PRIEST ON MY WAY TO LEVEL 10 BUT PEOPLE SAY IT’S IMPOSSIBLE. I HAD TO DRINK IN BETWEEN EVERY PULL BUT PEOPLE SAY YOU DON’T NEED TO. ITS THE EXACT SAME SHIT AS CLASSIC JUST WITH NEW STUFF. (!!!!!)

This game ‘target audience’ is so fucking niche, that the best thing Blizzard can do is simply not to listen to them.

I’m a Classic Andy, we finally have something new and exciting and all I see is complaining. Go back to ERA with the same 500 people that have been playing it and then ask yourself why no one else plays that version of the game.

PLEASE BLIZZARD don’t let this loud minority ruin what it seems to be an awesome game.

Someone posted yesterday that they hope Blizz wont add a million mounts to the game as it ruins immersion. Most of us agreed. Well here we are...

Really disappointed in the Human SD > HD transitions. I feel like other races mostly look ok, but you can't make a human transition properly. Shame Blizzard is such a small indie company and can't do this better.

The toggle doesn't give you actual classic models. It slaps classic textures over the retail models. Infact they didn't change any animations other than running, the proportions and idle animations are still like retail. Even gestures like talking is using the retail animations.

For example undeads breathe in classic making their chest puff up and down, this does not happen in classic forever even when you turn the toggle off.

We need to speak up about this.

Edit:
Made a video that shows comparisons with some of the animations as well. Still mainly about the undead but it does show the clip of the Tauren as well for more context. 3mins long. Sorry if this is against the rules.
https://youtu.be/CudPP9Ch1Rw?si=tqxOvxZo5DhjuJzi

Edit 2: We did it boys, we got the word out to the streamers. They're the reason we have the toggle in the first place apparently cause they were adamant about it when they saw blizz and they didn't have one. Hopefully a change can be made now.

Edit 3: xaryu called this post disingenuous when he did a side by side with a bald no eyes undead vs bald no eyes undead. He didn't show hair with eyes which is the real issue with the face overall. It sucks you can go through all this effort and streamers will call it fake news and disingenuous

Won't get anything changed with streamers not taking the issue seriously

Dismember is literally Mortal Strike and it makes Hunters shred through healers like paper.

Sonic Blast is Curse of Tongues, increasing casting time and GCD by 60%. Even instant casts are slowed...

I swear the next pet is going to have Blessing of Protection at this point.

Rushed home to try my class just to end up spending a solid 3 minutes playing in a pool. GG Blizzard

Edit: damn some of you are actually miserable lol wtf

Doubling down on the intent to aggressively ban gold buyers.

As a 30 year old lifelong gamer, somehow the WoW Forever beta is my first experience of World of Warcraft.

I am blown away and can't wait to play more at launch. The game is amazing. The vibe, the sounds, the surroundings. It's the first game that actually makes me FEEL like im in a different world while playing and makes me excited to explore.

Now, if this game makes me feel like this in 2026 i can't imagine how amazing and revolutionary this game must have felt in 2004. It would be great to hear some of your impressions when WoW was first released! :)

Charging money for an addon is against TOS, but they are allowed to continue, even sponsoring streams to promote their garbage. The addon is disgusting and goes against everything Classic WoW should be, literally turning people's brains off, also promoting a toxic 'rush to end-game as fast as possible' mindset. One of the worst addons ever made.

Premade groups will only be matched in Battlegrounds against other premade groups, but if you are wondering about playing with your small group of friends, then fear not, as Senior Game Designer Josh “Aggrend” Greenfield explained that there will still be a small-group option. This will potentially be around 2-3 players, but that is still being decided.

Battleground Matchmaking was first discussed in Classic in Phase Two of Season of Discovery, when changes to matchmaking meant that premades were less likely to be matched with PuGs. This did come with a caveat whereby, after sitting in the queue for a period of time, the new rules would be ignored. We don't know if that will be the case in WoW: Forever.

I’ll do my best to remember what I know of

Edit: boarding a plane. Will answer more when I land. Love yall

Edit pt2: just landed. Answering what I can.

Yall the best. Maybe I should stream answering these questions aha

Edit pt3: ALRIGHT I ANSWERED WHAT I COULD.

SHAMELESS PLUG-IN: twitch.tv/thenameszinx

“THE NAMES ZINX” ON ALL SOCIALS.

ILL BE STREAMING IT AND SEEING YALL THERE.

BE OGs

LOVE YALL

Since base damage of each spell is reduced, I made a chart comparing damaging spells across Mage, Warlock, Shadow Priest, Balance Druid, and Elemental Shaman to see how much spell power needed to reach their base damage in Classic WoW.

How to interpret the graph: Each bar shows how much +spell power in WoW: Forever a spell needs to match its WoW:Classic damage at 0 spell power (at level 60). Longer bars mean a bigger gap and the dashed line is the average for that class.

For spells, I used the highest rank available at level 60. For spells with a damage range, I compared the midpoint, for DoTs, I counted their full duration. The base damage values come from the WoW Forever Talents spellbook comparisons (https://wowforevertalents.com/), and the +SP values are calculated using spell power coefficients.

This is a comparison of spell damage before talents, crits, and resistance. It isn't an overall DPS ranking, but I thought seeing all the spells together made the differences easier to judge.

TDLR: Short bar = good. Long bar = bad.

Zugzug.

Edit: Here's the graph for heals, results are quite funny: https://www.reddit.com/r/classicwow/comments/1wncmoq/how_much_healing_power_each_healing_spell_needs/

Edit2: For those who are asking about Smite and Holy fire (it's really bad):

Spell, Classic base damage, Forever base damage, Forever coefficient, +Spell power needed

Smite, 385–429, 167–186, 71.4%, 323

Holy Fire,355–449 + 145 DoT, 184–232 + 75 DoT, 100% total, 264

Maybe I'm just too old to understand, but I swear the biggest difference between WoW in 2004 and WoW Forever is all these streamers. Back in 2004, we just played the freaking game. We got lost, wiped in dungeons, made friends, and nobody gave a shit how long it took you to hit 60. Now we've got streamers, their armies of followers, everyone racing to 60, and all this RMT BS. Here's a crazy idea. What if we all just stopped watching WoW streamers?

Seriously. No viewers, no subscriptions, no donations, no money. Eventually, there's no financial incentive to stream WoW. I'm not saying every streamer is involved in RMT, but I can't help feeling that turning every damn thing in this game into a business is ruining what made WoW great in the first place. Why the hell are we watching other people have adventures in Azeroth when we could be having our own?

Want to support WoW Forever? Log in, help a random player, join a guild, run a dungeon, and actually PLAY THE DAMN GAME. Maybe I'm just nostalgic for 2004, but I'd love to see what WoW Forever would look like without the streamer circus.

Stop watching. Stop Chasing the Meta. Stop theory craft, etc., and just play the damn game.

Now let the downvotes begin.

People say women wouldn't play an Elf but I definitely would! They are one of my favorite races and hope they implement them into the future. The skybourne race is disappointing and wish they were a bit more creative with it but I digress. Sorry if you don't agree 🤷‍♀️

Cities are way more immersive and look busy without loads of yaks and dinosaurs

I have no solution to this but maybe someone else does.

I've sat at my desk all morning worrying about the lack of Shamans on Alliance.

My boss can tell something is wrong but he wouldn't dare interrupt my thinking time.

He wouldn't dare.